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		<title>Comment on Please answer. Im not sure what to do about this.? by Heyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate to your daughter in this situation almost exactly!I too am in 9th grade at an expensive private school. I&#039;ve had a lot of things happen in my life that have caused me to have a VERY dysfunctional family (to the point where I live with my grandmother since my parents are unable to fully care for me). Anyway, I&#039;m on an academic scholarship program at this school and somehow, most people know about it. I went to a summer camp about 2 summers ago with a group of my &quot;friends.&quot; I ended up being miserable because I was and still am overweight, am not rich and therefore don&#039;t have designer clothes, bags, etc. and can&#039;t go and do whatever I want (if i got in trouble even outside school, I would lose my scholarship) and got made fun of. The group of girls I went with all ended up making friends with other girls, tanning in skimpy bikinis, and flirting with guys. None of which I was included in or would have felt comfortable with had I been included (because of my weight and lack of money). I beg you on behalf of your daughter, DON&#039;T go to the camp or pastor, etc to complain without consulting her first. She may like it if you did that, she may feel it will help her, but from personal experience don&#039;t do anything without getting her approval first. I know that may seem wrong since you&#039;re the parent and don&#039;t need your child&#039;s permission for things, but my grandmother made complaints to both the school and the camp and it only made it worse for me. Just talk to her about the possible things you can do to improve the situation. Maybe this isn&#039;t the right school/camp/church for her to go to? Maybe she would be more comfortable somewhere else? Just talk, get her input on what she thinks would be best for her and the rest of your family. Even though she is still young, she could have some valuable input. Talking is the first step to everything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m a 9th grader in the same situation as your daughter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate to your daughter in this situation almost exactly!I too am in 9th grade at an expensive private school. I&#8217;ve had a lot of things happen in my life that have caused me to have a VERY dysfunctional family (to the point where I live with my grandmother since my parents are unable to fully care for me). Anyway, I&#8217;m on an academic scholarship program at this school and somehow, most people know about it. I went to a summer camp about 2 summers ago with a group of my &quot;friends.&quot; I ended up being miserable because I was and still am overweight, am not rich and therefore don&#8217;t have designer clothes, bags, etc. and can&#8217;t go and do whatever I want (if i got in trouble even outside school, I would lose my scholarship) and got made fun of. The group of girls I went with all ended up making friends with other girls, tanning in skimpy bikinis, and flirting with guys. None of which I was included in or would have felt comfortable with had I been included (because of my weight and lack of money). I beg you on behalf of your daughter, DON&#8217;T go to the camp or pastor, etc to complain without consulting her first. She may like it if you did that, she may feel it will help her, but from personal experience don&#8217;t do anything without getting her approval first. I know that may seem wrong since you&#8217;re the parent and don&#8217;t need your child&#8217;s permission for things, but my grandmother made complaints to both the school and the camp and it only made it worse for me. Just talk to her about the possible things you can do to improve the situation. Maybe this isn&#8217;t the right school/camp/church for her to go to? Maybe she would be more comfortable somewhere else? Just talk, get her input on what she thinks would be best for her and the rest of your family. Even though she is still young, she could have some valuable input. Talking is the first step to everything.<br /><b>References : </b><br />I&#8217;m a 9th grader in the same situation as your daughter</p>
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		<title>Comment on Please answer. Im not sure what to do about this.? by Orange County, Ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orange County, Ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same problem growing up, i did go to a church that had allot of wealthy family&#039;s and when i was in High School they all made fun of  me because my parents didn&#039;t buy me a car. 
Honestly i would get a refund of the money for the camp &amp; take a family vacation. If you talk to someone at the church there isn&#039;t much they can do butt possibly give you a refund, butt explain to them why.  It&#039;s sad these days people label you on what you have and what you look like, not whats inside of you. There is one suggestion if the people who run the camp or school  would assign group assignments or something where 2-3 girls would work together and then they would get to know each other and possibly make friends and teach them that it isn&#039;t what you have it&#039;s who&#039;s inside. Possibly ban electronics from camp. That&#039;s what they did when i went to camp. The only thing we could bring was clothes and Medicine if needed. About kids having name brand clothing, there is ways to buy it pretty cheap i.e. Clarence or sale items like Aeropostale they have sales all the time and if you sign up for there web site you get coupons or more selection on sale or Clarence items &amp; they have plus sizes too. I hope this helps you, if you need more just email me. Good Luck.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personal Experience &amp; www.ivillage.com - www.aeropostale.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem growing up, i did go to a church that had allot of wealthy family&#8217;s and when i was in High School they all made fun of  me because my parents didn&#8217;t buy me a car.<br />
Honestly i would get a refund of the money for the camp &amp; take a family vacation. If you talk to someone at the church there isn&#8217;t much they can do butt possibly give you a refund, butt explain to them why.  It&#8217;s sad these days people label you on what you have and what you look like, not whats inside of you. There is one suggestion if the people who run the camp or school  would assign group assignments or something where 2-3 girls would work together and then they would get to know each other and possibly make friends and teach them that it isn&#8217;t what you have it&#8217;s who&#8217;s inside. Possibly ban electronics from camp. That&#8217;s what they did when i went to camp. The only thing we could bring was clothes and Medicine if needed. About kids having name brand clothing, there is ways to buy it pretty cheap i.e. Clarence or sale items like Aeropostale they have sales all the time and if you sign up for there web site you get coupons or more selection on sale or Clarence items &amp; they have plus sizes too. I hope this helps you, if you need more just email me. Good Luck.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Personal Experience &amp; <a href="http://www.ivillage.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ivillage.com</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.aeropostale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.aeropostale.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Please answer. Im not sure what to do about this.? by Kevin[In Afghan]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin[In Afghan]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like it was more just away for the parents to get rid of the rich kids for the summer. It is up to your daughter to be able to make friends who are real. All she really needs is one or 2 good friends. I am sure they are out there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it was more just away for the parents to get rid of the rich kids for the summer. It is up to your daughter to be able to make friends who are real. All she really needs is one or 2 good friends. I am sure they are out there.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Please answer. Im not sure what to do about this.? by Bakersdozen13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bakersdozen13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Advice: Just ideas

Homeschooling: sounds like a really good option for your you older daughter. She doesn&#039;t really need the high school experience and she obviously doesn&#039;t want it.  You are a very busy mom too so if she is very responsible kid and you guys have internet access schooling over the internet is another option. I know of kids who do this if their parents are too busy.  But overall I wouldn&#039;t blame the church for this and at your time of need leaving God wouldn&#039;t help your situation at all. This the time where you need to be closest to him.  The trip thing wasn&#039;t probably a good idea with the expenses of it and if you go to camps in your area you can find way more friendly people.  All girl camps, now that might be a good idea and ones with out a lake if your daughter feels uncomfortable.  Also an idea maybe to listen to Dr. Laura look her up and maybe even call her up if you work up the courage. She has a radio station hopefully she broadcasts in your area.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Advice: Just ideas</p>
<p>Homeschooling: sounds like a really good option for your you older daughter. She doesn&#8217;t really need the high school experience and she obviously doesn&#8217;t want it.  You are a very busy mom too so if she is very responsible kid and you guys have internet access schooling over the internet is another option. I know of kids who do this if their parents are too busy.  But overall I wouldn&#8217;t blame the church for this and at your time of need leaving God wouldn&#8217;t help your situation at all. This the time where you need to be closest to him.  The trip thing wasn&#8217;t probably a good idea with the expenses of it and if you go to camps in your area you can find way more friendly people.  All girl camps, now that might be a good idea and ones with out a lake if your daughter feels uncomfortable.  Also an idea maybe to listen to Dr. Laura look her up and maybe even call her up if you work up the courage. She has a radio station hopefully she broadcasts in your area.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Please answer. Im not sure what to do about this.? by The Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life sucks doesn&#039;t it? I feel sorry for you and I can&#039;t help but I&#039;m sure you can figure this out. Make a formal complaint to the camp as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life sucks doesn&#8217;t it? I feel sorry for you and I can&#8217;t help but I&#8217;m sure you can figure this out. Make a formal complaint to the camp as well.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Should we leave this church? by esuz</title>
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		<dc:creator>esuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stay at your church.  Snobbish kids and discrimination by the rich kids at camp are insufficient reasons to leave your church.

You may mention the incident to your youth pastor, as they always want ways to improve their camp.  But he may tell others who may interpret it differently and ostracize your daughter.

I&#039;m sorry about what happened to your daughter at camp, but she would have been bound to have this experience at some time.  Forget about the incident, build up your daughter&#039;s self esteem, find something better to do with your money, ignore the rich and what they do with their kids and how they spend their money.  Stop being flustered about it and consider this incident as experience and move on with your life and family.

All the best to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay at your church.  Snobbish kids and discrimination by the rich kids at camp are insufficient reasons to leave your church.</p>
<p>You may mention the incident to your youth pastor, as they always want ways to improve their camp.  But he may tell others who may interpret it differently and ostracize your daughter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry about what happened to your daughter at camp, but she would have been bound to have this experience at some time.  Forget about the incident, build up your daughter&#8217;s self esteem, find something better to do with your money, ignore the rich and what they do with their kids and how they spend their money.  Stop being flustered about it and consider this incident as experience and move on with your life and family.</p>
<p>All the best to you.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Should we leave this church? by Ceecee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceecee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, don&#039;t leave your church unless the whole church thinks the same way. I am a christian and have seen how children in church can be cruel. Definitely talk to your youth pastor about the problem and ask him what he thinks of the camp. I feel that he should talk to the youth group at your church about being mindful of others and their situations. I&#039;m guessing beccause the teens at camp have lived a privlegded life, they probably don&#039;t see what they do is hurting your daughter. Its not exactly wrong for the camp kids to act that way and wear the clothes they do. One thing you said that was not right was when you said all the girls wanted to do was meet boys. That is not the focus of camp. Camp should be on God.

Is this Bigstuf camp a church camp or just regular for teens? Because if it is a church camp, it shouldn&#039;t be held like that. At my youth camps we are not allowed to bring electronics, except cell phones, because it distracts us from God. Also, we are not allowed to wear revealing bathing suits because we know God does not want us to temp the flesh. Chaperones are almost always with the teens and even get involved during free time.

Unless the financial aspects of your life is preventing you from serving God, I suggest you stay at the church. But if you are unhappy there, God might be calling you to another place. Pray about it!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, don&#8217;t leave your church unless the whole church thinks the same way. I am a christian and have seen how children in church can be cruel. Definitely talk to your youth pastor about the problem and ask him what he thinks of the camp. I feel that he should talk to the youth group at your church about being mindful of others and their situations. I&#8217;m guessing beccause the teens at camp have lived a privlegded life, they probably don&#8217;t see what they do is hurting your daughter. Its not exactly wrong for the camp kids to act that way and wear the clothes they do. One thing you said that was not right was when you said all the girls wanted to do was meet boys. That is not the focus of camp. Camp should be on God.</p>
<p>Is this Bigstuf camp a church camp or just regular for teens? Because if it is a church camp, it shouldn&#8217;t be held like that. At my youth camps we are not allowed to bring electronics, except cell phones, because it distracts us from God. Also, we are not allowed to wear revealing bathing suits because we know God does not want us to temp the flesh. Chaperones are almost always with the teens and even get involved during free time.</p>
<p>Unless the financial aspects of your life is preventing you from serving God, I suggest you stay at the church. But if you are unhappy there, God might be calling you to another place. Pray about it!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on My list of things to do before I die&#8230; :-)? by ♫♪♥☼ Natalie ♫♪♥☼</title>
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		<dc:creator>♫♪♥☼ Natalie ♫♪♥☼</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have done like 20 of those things&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done like 20 of those things<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on My list of things to do before I die&#8230; :-)? by Miss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s a long ass list. By the way, why are you making a list of what you want to do before you die. You&#039;re way far from that! And what&#039;s the question?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a long ass list. By the way, why are you making a list of what you want to do before you die. You&#8217;re way far from that! And what&#8217;s the question?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on My list of things to do before I die&#8230; :-)? by ♥Lyssie♥</title>
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		<dc:creator>♥Lyssie♥</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, thats a big list, lol. 

i have swam with dolphins. it was one of the best things ive done in my life. seriously, if you get the chance to do it, do it. it was awesome.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, thats a big list, lol. </p>
<p>i have swam with dolphins. it was one of the best things ive done in my life. seriously, if you get the chance to do it, do it. it was awesome.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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